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Wu Jie cleared his throat, then began to try and dissociate himself from the Shinobi World War in front of Tsunade.
"Please allow me to clarify. Although everyone believes the Fourth Shinobi World War was instigated by us, in reality, Uzumaki only accelerated the war's arrival. After all, the ninja world has been recuperating for over a decade; various villages have already prepared sufficient strength for the next war. After Mr. Orochimaru's Konoha Crush plan, other major ninja nations couldn't possibly pass up this opportunity. Uzumaki merely followed this trend."
Actually, the Shinobi World War really was instigated by Uzumaki. Because in the original timeline, after Konoha was attacked by Orochimaru, the other villages showed no intention of acting at all. But at least at this point in time, in everyone's eyes, the possibility of other villages taking advantage of the situation was still very high.
Orochimaru's lips curved slightly upwards, agreeing with Wu Jie's words. One of the reasons he attacked Konoha was because other villages had been constantly preparing for war, yet Konoha was still immersed in an environment of peace and prosperity. He believed such a Konoha would inevitably be defeated in the coming great war. So, rather than letting other villages destroy Konoha, it was better for him to destroy this village he once loved.
Wu Jie continued, "Mr. Jiraiya also said before that the Shinobi World War will inevitably cause massive civilian casualties. Therefore, I hope to build the Land of Whirlpools into a safe haven, allowing all civilians who detest war to hide there and wait for the war to end."
Jiraiya let out a sneer, saying, "The very person who wants to start a Shinobi World War claims to want to protect civilians. This is truly a monumental joke."
Wu Jie nodded in acknowledgment. "Because we only want to eliminate ninja, not civilians."
The ninja world's technology tree was a mess, but overall, it was still in an agrarian age, so population was everything at this stage. A large influx of people into the Land of Whirlpools would rapidly drive the nation's development. Even after the war began, ninja who yearned for peace would also enter the Land of Whirlpools for refuge. All these factors would greatly enhance the Land of Whirlpools' strength. The Land of Whirlpools had many natural harbors. After the population increased, they could engage in maritime trade like Gato, and then, relying on vast sums of money, they could even transform this agrarian age directly into an industrial age!
But along with that would come a chaotic and complex situation. That's why he needed someone like Tsunade to oversee things, because the Land of Whirlpools was also an indispensable part of his revenge plan. Moreover, Tsunade's existence was also the best way to maintain his relationship with the Daimyo. As a top-tier medical ninja, which ruler wouldn't want to cultivate a good relationship with this 'Medical Saint'? One of the reasons he previously believed Tsunade was the most suitable person to become Hokage was precisely because she could gain the full support of the Land of Fire's Daimyo! After all, war was a matter of resources, and the vast majority of a ninja village's resources were supplied by the country.
After Jiraiya stopped refuting him, Wu Jie continued, "Moreover, ninja are all very pragmatic individuals. The main reason they can tolerate us stirring up trouble everywhere is because, in their eyes, Uzumaki are just two rather annoying flies. Compared to ninja villages, our strength is truly insignificant. They believe they can crush us at any time."
"But this situation won't last forever. As the war progresses, when various ninja villages have suffered heavy losses and their strength is greatly diminished, these pragmatic fellows won't choose to drag their enemies down to hell with them. Instead, they will tacitly begin to negotiate a truce. If, at that time, we are still alive and still pose a threat to the ninja villages, they might even set aside their mutual blood feuds and form a Shinobi Alliance to attack us. Therefore, we need the strength of the Land of Whirlpools to help us complete the final step, which is to completely crush them!"
The Shinobi World War could consume the lives of ninja, but expecting it to wipe them all out, leaving not a single one, was a bit of a fantasy.
Tsunade asked, "Do you intend to rebuild Uzushiogakure (Village Hidden by Whirling Tides)?"
"No, that's not my intention." Wu Jie shook his head, denying this idea. He was going to eliminate ninja; how could he possibly establish a ninja village?
Wu Jie continued to explain, "The Land of Whirlpools will no longer establish a ninja village, nor will it train ninja. Instead, like a Daimyo, it will directly establish an army. We will train capable individuals as soldiers, subjecting them to modern military management and standardized training. The ninja village system and the profession of ninja will be completely abolished in the Land of Whirlpools. Ninjutsu will also be entirely revised and transformed into legionary magical arts. From now on, the Land of Whirlpools will only have a regular army loyal to the Head of State!"
"The Land of Whirlpools will quietly accumulate strength until the ninja can no longer endure their losses and begin to negotiate a truce. At that time, relying on powerful military strength and modernized weapons, it will directly sweep across the entire ninja world! I want all ninja villages to be completely delisted. Those who want to survive must renounce their ninja status and submit to the state. I want the very thing known as 'ninja' to be thoroughly erased and eliminated from the history of this world!"
It was impossible to kill every single ninja. Even the Uzumaki clan, didn't it still have survivors wandering the ninja world? So, Wu Jie's plan from the very beginning was to eliminate the very...
"Concept!?" Tsunade stared, astonished. "Eliminating ninja villages and ninja... so what you said before wasn't about wanting to eliminate them physically, but to completely erase the concept of ninja from history!?"
"Hehe." A drop of cold sweat also trickled down Orochimaru's forehead. "This is truly so..."
"Arrogant!!!" Jiraiya immediately shouted. "The existence of ninja spans over a thousand years! What makes you think you can erase ninja!?"
Wu Jie sneered. "Then how many years has the history of samurai spanned? And how long do you think it took for them to be eliminated by ninja and disappear into the dust of history? This was without any external interference. And it's not erasure, but elimination! Things that are hidden will sooner or later be discovered, but things that are eliminated, everyone will scorn!"
"Ninja were born from war. But after the unification of the ninja world, ninja no longer have a necessary reason to exist. Furthermore, the current ninja system is very backward, with a stark class divide. Ninja like Jiraiya can amass fortunes of hundreds of millions just by taking on commissions, yet most ninja have no base salary. They can only live on commissions, which means no public holidays! They even lose their source of income if the number of commissions decreases, and there's no medical insurance after being injured. Most can only hastily bandage themselves and tough it out."
In the future, even Sakura, a high-ranking member of the medical department, had to desperately take on commissions to pay off her mortgage because she refused to engage in corruption. This showed what kind of life low-level ninja lived.
"There's also corruption among high-ranking officials who misappropriate public funds at will. Even if discovered, they protect each other. Commission issuers engage in black-box operations, where connections are more important than rules. For example, Naruto, relying on his nepotistic relationship with the Third Hokage, was personally assigned a mission by the Third Hokage with a reward of two hundred thousand Ryo. And the content of the mission was just to find a lost cat. But under normal circumstances, once the reward exceeds one hundred fifty thousand Ryo, there's a possibility of encountering threats of the level of a ninja squad during the mission! Yet, precisely because this mission was personally assigned by the Third Hokage, others could only swallow their anger and not dare to speak out!"
"So, as long as the treatment of the army can be improved, salaries and benefits increased, and a strict and standardized review system implemented to ensure fairness and justice to the greatest extent possible, then in the future world, dregs of the old era like ninja will inevitably be swept into the dustbin of history!"
Everyone felt a chill run down their backs after hearing Wu Jie's words. What was happening? Why did the topic suddenly become so realistic? Why are you talking about dreadful things like base salary, commissions, and medical insurance here? And isn't being a ninja a profession of love, bonds, and dreams? How did it suddenly become dregs of the old era!
Kabuto nervously pushed up his glasses, then immediately said, "To, to be honest, I don't believe you would lay your true plans bare like this. If I told your plans to Iwagakure or Kumogakure, what would you do then?"
Everyone breathed a sigh of relief; the flow of the conversation had finally returned.
Wu Jie shook his head and smiled. He didn't directly respond to Kabuto but pointed at Naruto and said to Orochimaru, "Mr. Orochimaru, I'm telling you now, this brat is the future savior. He will gain power hundreds or thousands of times greater than any Hokage. A powerhouse like you wouldn't even be able to take a single blow from him. He will also protect our world and save all of us from aliens. What do you think?"
Orochimaru almost burst out laughing. "I think that's truly absurd."
At this point, Kabuto also seemed to understand. The five great ninja villages were too powerful; they were unlikely to care about a country that didn't even have a ninja village. And by the time they truly realized the threat of the Land of Whirlpools, perhaps it would already be too late.
A brief silence fell upon the scene. Then Jiraiya spoke, "You want to eliminate all ninja for revenge. But do you think that if ninja disappear, the kind of tragedy that happened to you will never occur again? Humans are the root of conflict. If mutual understanding cannot be achieved, whether it's samurai or soldiers, as long as humans exist, things like what happened to the Uzumaki clan will continue to happen! The chain of hatred will continue endlessly, never to be broken. Only by allowing people to understand each other can this world truly be saved!"
Wu Jie bowed slightly to Jiraiya with a faint smile, then slowly said, "If it truly comes to that time, then it means the Uzumaki's journey of revenge has reached its end. What follows... will be someone else's story."
Tsunade looked at Wu Jie and Karin, then said softly, "Can you tell me what kind of life you lived before?"
Wu Jie glanced at Naruto, then shook his head slightly. "Apologies, Tsunade-sama. Scars that can be casually revealed to others are not truly scars at all."
"Is that so? That's true." Tsunade sighed with emotion, then still shook her head and refused, "I'm sorry, but I just want to live a peaceful life, undisturbed by anyone."
However, Wu Jie laughed. "Tsunade-sama, you've refused too early. I've only just finished saying what I intend to do. I haven't yet told you what I plan to use to buy you over."
Hearing this, Tsunade laughed. She crossed her arms, looking at Wu Jie as if to say, "Let's see what you've got." "Then try it. But I bet you definitely won't succeed."
Wu Jie almost laughed out loud. Tsunade-sama, have you perhaps forgotten that you lose every bet you make?
"Mr. Jiraiya also thought he wouldn't go back to take up the Hokage position, but the result couldn't be as he wished. But let's put him aside for now. Tsunade-sama, you still remember, right? That dream your younger brother Nawaki always talked about. Yes, that one. The dream of wanting to become Hokage. That... dream for which he ultimately died on the battlefield."